Video GAMES

[00:00:06] Speaker A: Hey, guys. So we're at episode four. That's right, four. Like the turtles. Turtles video games. That's what we're talking about today. Let's get it started and go. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Hello, everyone, and thank you for tuning in to listen to our fourth episode of Vegas Gee Crew. Our panel consists of myself, Nate ovindicator. [00:00:30] Speaker C: Ramirez, Noemonelscos molina, Tina Tapadillo, Patrick Neckerman, Kerny. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Hey, guys, how's it going? This is our fourth episode. We just released our third episode, which was, I feel, the most intimate thing we've done so far. I don't really want to talk about it, but I'll go around the table and see what everyone thinks. [00:00:47] Speaker C: I was a little scared about that getting released, but I was happy with it. [00:00:51] Speaker D: The outcome was pretty good. [00:00:53] Speaker A: Was that the one I was supposed to listen to because I started on the first one? [00:00:56] Speaker B: No. We have a special panelist today. If you guys have heard him, that's Patrick. And so he's here today because we're going to do a video game episode. You weren't supposed to listen to the fourth one. It's okay. It's one of those. That's. You have to be in the right mindset. The third episode, it was difficult to edit because I have to hear it over and over and over again. [00:01:13] Speaker D: It was also difficult to listen to. I had listened to it in three different increments because once they got to the first story, I was like, all right, I'm good. I know that once they got to the end, it's going to be hard to stomach. [00:01:23] Speaker B: And it was just like. It was our shortest episode. It was only an hour and a minute long. It brought up a lot of things that I feel that I wasn't expecting. I do want to thank Sean for being on the show with us that day, and he helped put it together. But we're going to move on to our recap. So we took an Anaheim trip this month, or I took Anaheim trip and. [00:01:41] Speaker D: I tagged along, visited some friends. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we hit up frankincense. [00:01:45] Speaker D: We did. [00:01:46] Speaker B: I had a great time. [00:01:47] Speaker D: Definitely a must. What did you buy? [00:01:49] Speaker B: So I've been collecting monsters slash Ninja Turtles crossover that they did. Neca did these wonderful figures that are very intricate and detailed. And so I finally completed the set. I got the splinter. And I got so, which is the hunchback. So splinter was in Helsing. The boxes are pristine. And that's what was really looking for. So now I completed the set. As soon as I completed the set, there was a press release because San Diego Comic Con was happening and they're doing a second series of that set. [00:02:16] Speaker D: Are you serious? [00:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Again, I have to go through this again. It was so difficult finding the first set and finding them in the condition I wanted them. [00:02:23] Speaker D: You still need another set so you can open them. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to definitely get another set. [00:02:27] Speaker A: That's one of the hardest things about being a collector in general is because you don't know if something's going to hit. And when it does hit, then you're like, oh, man, I'm glad I got it. But then, oh, hey, here's a repaint. Here's a repaint. Here's a repaint. Oh, hey, remember that problem, second generation of the figure? Well, we fixed it and it's a repaint. And you're like, cool. So I was a beta tester. [00:02:44] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, it's very frustrating. I got a couple of prints. I got to see family. I got to hang out with my best friend from college. I met up with Jonesy. We went on a couple adventures. We drove all around the city. I have nothing but great things to say about Anaheim. I don't miss it. I'm happy living in Nevada. I'm a happy Nevada resident. I don't want to move back. Did you guys watch Ninja Turtles? [00:03:06] Speaker A: Yes, I watched it. [00:03:08] Speaker D: Unfortunately, I watched it the day after heavy drinking, so I was hungover during that movie. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God, 40? [00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we watched it in four. DX, iMax. Yeah. My back was nice. Yeah. [00:03:21] Speaker D: But the movie, fantastic. [00:03:23] Speaker B: It was great. I've seen it three times since we saw the early release. I watched it a second time with our dad, and then I just watched it today with my daughter and she loved it. She's like, again? And I was like, this isn't a ride, honey. [00:03:35] Speaker C: Did you watch it in 40 with her? [00:03:37] Speaker B: No, absolutely not. [00:03:38] Speaker D: No. Because that was aggressive. When I tell you. It flared up my sciatica. I walked out of there limping. I was like, I am no, really in my prime. [00:03:47] Speaker C: Young twenty s. I hated the 4D. Honestly. The 3D was cool. The 4d part was just horrible. I hated it. I was over it, like ten minutes. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:56] Speaker C: I don't want to do this. [00:03:57] Speaker D: Did your kids enjoy? [00:03:58] Speaker C: They love the movie. They also were over the 4D part with the crown. [00:04:03] Speaker D: This is attractive for 40. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Well, my thing was like, I went to go get a sip of my drink, and all of a sudden the straw went and throw deep. I was like, oh, my God. And then my sister saw me and she's like, are you okay? And I was, like, seeing red, and I was like, oh, I just gagged myself with the straw. [00:04:18] Speaker D: I couldn't stop laughing because we also got the complimentary posters, so I didn't even know where to put them, where to tuck them, the floor in the cup holder. [00:04:25] Speaker C: You know what Ari said? Me and Ari were like, you know what was missing out of those seats were seatbelts because we almost fell out of those seats a couple of times. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Did your kids have any of the, why are you happy right now? Why are you cheering? Why are you so happy or ecstatic? Any of that? Because we know the history of the different media of turtles. So obviously video games, comic books. Originally we have five or six different series. We have four live action, five live action movies. We have a live action series. So when they did references, my daughter was just like, why are you so happy right now? And I'm like, I'll explain it to you later. I'll show you the Wikipedia later. [00:05:03] Speaker B: So me and my kid, if you listen to the movies episode, me and my kid already, while out at movies, as I was doing things, I was like, when the go ninja, go ninja, go song played and I started dancing and I started doing the left to the right hook, she started doing it with me. And my mom just covered her eyes like, oh, no, not this. And she's like, and luckily, the movie theater, we went early, so it was empty until I was just like, I, wow. Out. I love it. I was very impressed with the amount of care and intent there was in this film. It was very detail oriented. It's a great representation of what I remember the turtles being. Was there anything that stuck out in your mind? [00:05:39] Speaker D: I felt like they were actual teenagers. Being on TikTok a lot, I noticed that the new slang words, sometimes I have to use urban dictionary to catch up. Watching this one, I felt like they were actually kids. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah, they definitely felt teenagers. Hey, the best. They're not going to win every time. They're going to have to learn. They're going to have to, as a teen, grow. And them being fifth just kind of feels right, because like most turtle stuff now, there may be teenage Mutant Ninja turtles, but they feel 20, they feel 22, they feel older. Especially Raphael. He always feels like he's, like, 25 and grumpy. [00:06:07] Speaker B: They felt 15 to piggyback off that. I really liked the first scene when Raphael's blade went into Mikey's. Oh, no. Was it Mikey or Donnie's? Yeah, Donnie's leg. And I was like, this is perfect. Because it was imperfect. Right? For so long, the turtles have been badasses. It wasn't a perfect fight scene. And then I loved that they used no diggity as that song to go over the fight. Know? I was like, I love it when you work it. I was just dancing. [00:06:35] Speaker D: No, you were singing. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Full on singing. [00:06:38] Speaker A: So that's like the scene. Like, my daughter just going like, oh, why are you so happy right now? And you're like, this song, not knowing it was perfect. I would never have picked that song, and it was perfect. Like, you said, it hit in the right moment, and it was just perfect. And you're like, I didn't know I needed that. And now I have it, and I'm happy I have it. [00:06:55] Speaker B: And you said it when we watch it, because you went with me and my dad the second time. Right? Even watching it the second time, it was so good. It felt short. [00:07:02] Speaker C: Yes, it did. I got to say that the soundtrack on that movie was perfect. It took me back to my teens. The perfect. [00:07:09] Speaker D: They did an amazing job humanizing them, because you're not just looking at your heroes, but you're looking at, like you said, imperfections. And then me being an adult now, when I was a kid, I was like, these people are so cool, but now watching them, it's like, yeah, their frontal lobe is not fully developed. There's no danger right now. They're invincible. [00:07:27] Speaker A: So, like, no way. Said the soundtrack was perfect, so I felt the same way. Unfortunately, I'm obsessed with. So, like, that's a movie that I analyzed, especially when the new one came out. And the soundtrack for that was fantastic. [00:07:37] Speaker B: So it's like the Beast one. Yes. [00:07:39] Speaker A: The rise of beast. So when without music or just a score, like, okay, this is a good movie. I like the orchestra, whatever. But then when they throw in music of the era, and you're like, I remember listening to this on tape. I remember what is on B side. Not only do you appreciate the scene and them figuring out that song for that scene, but then you also go, I remember where I was when I listened to this. It brings you to, obviously, your childhood, but you're like, hey, I was not that old in 94, but I remember listening to this song, and I shouldn't have at the time, but it's a good memory now. Turtles was definitely, I don't know, ten songs in. There was core memories. [00:08:12] Speaker D: Not to go too much off topic, but great example of Transformers with their music. Bumblebee was my favorite one because it reminded me of our father and all the music he's played when we were growing up. Music really does make the movies. [00:08:24] Speaker B: I love the shot selection. Right? They went to Machu Picchu and I'm a big fan of the indigenous thing. And I'm like, oh my God. This incorporates my own culture. And I felt that this one. Sorry, Michael Bay, really overdoes it with explosions and light flares. And so I was happy to see a different director take a different approach to Transformers because I feel like this was great. And there was so many little tidbits that geared you to the G A. Joe crossover, which you see at the end of the film. And even the suit that he gets from. What's his name? The Porsche. Yeah. Mirage. That he gets from Mirage. [00:08:56] Speaker D: Tell me why I was crying is. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Similar to the Josh suit from the Joe rise of Cobra. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Well, sorry, because unfortunately, I'm a wiki for transformers stuff. So that's actually a callback to the 86 movie. So in the 86 movie, Daniel Witwickey and Spike Witwicky both have mech suits. They actually do kind of transform into like, a sled. Spike is the protagonist of the original two seasons of Transformers. So he's all grown up because there's a time jump for the 86 movie when Unicron shows up. So you see him with Bumblebee, which is the human character for us in 86 movie. And Spike's all grown up, and his son is Daniel. Daniel is the one that hangs out with hot rod all the time. And in the beginning of the 86 a movie, the Decepticons kind of spoilers. 86 movie. [00:09:38] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:09:39] Speaker A: The Decepticons hijack a transformer ship, an Autobot ship, and they come to Earth. Like, he gets a suit eventually, and so it transforms. So that's actually a callback to the mech suits that the humans wore. And it didn't go too deep into the headmaster series and comic books, all that stuff. But it was just a mech suit. And they were able to tie it in with Mirage like it was a two for one, almost like, hey, how do we give him a mech suit without just going, oh, yeah, we have this human suit lying around. Know they're able to kind of still know it's two for one. We got to see Mirage as a mech suit. [00:10:07] Speaker B: So. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry, dude. [00:10:09] Speaker B: I love that. That's knowledge. That was a mic drop moment. You're definitely invited back. [00:10:13] Speaker A: Any Transformers questions at? I. Unfortunately, it's in my head and it won't go away. [00:10:18] Speaker B: Going back to turtles. Let's wrap up that it was a great movie. I loved ICE Cube as superfly. I'm a big turtles guy. I felt that it was well done, and overall, I give it a five out of five. I recommend it to everyone that's listening to this. How about you, Noah? [00:10:34] Speaker C: It's a five for me. I have to say that it was definitely one of the best made turtle movies that I've seen, if not the best one. And I'm just going to say that just because of nostalgia towards the original 1990 Turtle movies, I think I'll always have a love for those. For the first two movies, they're like one of my favorite turtle movies. [00:10:52] Speaker B: I'm definitely buying the Blu ray release, the special edition. I need to promote it. How about you, Tina? [00:10:58] Speaker D: I want to watch it again. As an artist, I really appreciated the art style. It reminded me a lot of spiderverse, but this art take that they're taking with the imperfections where you see the sketches and it looks like it's not completed, but it gives it like, it's beautiful. [00:11:10] Speaker B: But it's been around for a while. If you play video games, which this episode is about, Borderlands did that in 2009, 2010 when it released, and Borderlands was that art form. And it's raw, but it's good. [00:11:24] Speaker D: It is. [00:11:25] Speaker B: It's clean because it's different. It's not perfect. [00:11:27] Speaker D: Can you let the story speak for itself? [00:11:29] Speaker B: What do you recommend it out of five? [00:11:31] Speaker D: Out of five? A five. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Five perfectly. And how about you, Mr. [00:11:34] Speaker A: So speaking to the animation, I do think that there was obviously a meeting where they were like, hey, we'd like to do another live action turtles. And somebody goes, I don't know, man, Spider verse is killing it right now. They're about to come out with a second one. We can do so much more with the animation and the fact that if they had to mess with the budget or whoever had to sign the checks for animation, they killed it. It is like watching a comic book. The blending of seems to be very popular right now. I mean, there's a lot of animated shows. I watch so much now with my kids. There's a lot of animated shows doing the blend of another live action turtles, however advanced CGI would be. It's not going to look right, the blending of the works so well, but they can make, I don't know, a dozen of these, especially with turtles with the rich history. Superfly was amazing. You immediately look at it. And I tried to go in blind for the show, for the movie. I don't really normally do that. Sometimes I don't mind spoilers. So I will research something. A couple of movies I will go blind in. And this was definitely one of them because of the nostalgia. You just look at it and you go, this is how I would have made the movie. And I give it four out of four turtles. [00:12:40] Speaker B: I love that. Four out of four turtles. We should have used that at the beginning. Damn it. All right, so that's good. Let's move on. Jump right into our subject matter, which is video games. [00:12:49] Speaker A: You just mentioned Borderlands. Touching on that subject before it leaves my mind. Borderlands originally was a realistic shooter. There are trailers online. They're not that great because it's like four eightyp because it's old that it was a realistic shooter, really. And at a certain point they realized they couldn't pull it off. So they added like ten months to the development cycle and we got what we got ramped up the comedy. It was a very serious fallout type game. Really very dark and very gritty. You watch the first trailer and you're like, oh, wow, this is amazing. It's still going to be good. And then you watch the next trailer where you see the shift and you're like, oh, okay. So there's going to be humor. It's still going to be an amazing game. But they made it all about the guns and vehicles and they made it about the humor. But originally it was just like a dark, gritty off world fallout. [00:13:32] Speaker B: I did not know that. I remember playing it. It was one of my favorite games to play. I was in the military at the time and everyone picked it up at once. And so we all played together and it was one of the first games I felt was a first person open world RPG. And that's what it is. And so it's fun. The storyline is great. Even the twist at the end. You think you're going to find riches and all you do is find more des Madre. You know what I mean? You're like, oh my God, what's going on? But it's a great game. I did not know that. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Sorry. The princess is in another castle. It's a trope in video games, but if it's done well, you're like, oh, I applaud you. Thank you for, I feel deja vu because, hey, the princess is another castle. You're like, oh, man, seriously. But you appreciate it. And you're like, I want to play the sequel. Well, I realized definite buy for the. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Sequel, so I'm a big fan of two K. They make great games, great story games. Like, they made Bioshock, they made the original prey. They've done so many great story games, Borderlands. I don't know what their development strategy is, but it is far advanced for anything else. It's one of the only, I feel, production houses that does things for a single player, and they do it for your entertainment. But that game was the first one where they weren't going to let you beat it, even the expansion packs, unless you played with people. And so it was frustrating, right? Because some of those expansion packs had had the oddest things to complete the achievements. And it's one of the only games in my history that I've gotten 100% through, all the way through the expansion packs, because I was just dedicated and there was twelve of us playing at the time. And we're like, we're going to get this done. I don't care that we have to find 5 million claptrap dolls. We're going to do it. And every day it's like one of us would be hunting claptrap dolls while the other ones were doing this and blah, blah, blah. It was a team thing. And so it was great. [00:15:13] Speaker A: So that was one of those games, Borderlands, I think it was Borderlands, maybe Borderlands two, that kind of predated twitch drops. So they did something where if you followed them on social media or Facebook or something, they're like, hey, we're going to give you a code and you get these random guns. They were kind of scaled to your level in the game, but you were like, oh, I have a reason to follow them on Facebook. I have a reason to follow them on Twitter. It was preps. Like somebody learned about that and carried it over. But one of those things where you actually, I think if you went to a Gamestop or places like that, they'd be like, oh, hey, we're giving out the codes for all these guns. You can only get this gun here, you cannot buy it. It's not. [00:15:45] Speaker B: So they were actually at one of the first games, they used Twitter. So it was basically a chest at the center of the city in Borderlands two. And you'd get a code or a key code and you can upload it and you'd get a key, and depending on your level, you'd get the gun that level. But it was an ultra rare gun and so it was cool. I remember Twitter, it was so new, but I knew how to use it just for Borderlands. But now we're going to move on to our actual subject matter, video games. We talk about new things every month. This month it's going to be video games. My first question to you, Tina, is I want you to talk about what was your first console that you remember playing. I hope you go the route I thought you were going to go. First game that you remember playing being a challenge. [00:16:26] Speaker D: The super Nintendo SNES. It was with mom. She taught me how to play video games. I mean, we would sit in the garage, we had the TV, two controllers, even when I went in there and would play with you because at the time I was only five, you'd unplug it and you'd make me feel like I was playing. But that was the first console that introduced me to video games. But it wasn't something that stuck around for a long time. It wasn't until my PlayStation two when I started playing a lot of guitar hero. Very fondest memories are with mom because she knew some of the secrets and the tunnels and she would play with us as kids. [00:16:57] Speaker B: How about you, Patrick? [00:16:58] Speaker A: What was the question? [00:17:01] Speaker B: What was your first console? [00:17:02] Speaker A: So first console that I owned or first console I ever played? [00:17:06] Speaker B: First console that you owned? [00:17:08] Speaker A: Actually, these are both the same question. I mean, it's both for both, I guess. First console I ever played was an NES, and then the first console I ever owned was, I think, a handmedown NES. And since I'm an 84, baby, so by the time we got an NES, it was a lot cheaper and it was the two pack Mario duck hunt. And I remember, I don't know, five or six playing duck hunt. Standing back a little farther. Okay, let's see if I can get all these ducks. The dog would laugh at you and you're like, I'm going to get you one day. But it was nes and it was Mario Duck hunt. And then I believe, I'm trying to think, there was a couple of other standouts like Metroid and Zelda, the gold cartridge and things like that. NES was the first. They really did marketed it well as an, like, entertainment systems. Everybody kind of had one. Even if people didn't play video games, they had an NES. [00:17:54] Speaker C: First console I played on was NES. First console I owned was super NES. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Do you have any fond memories? [00:18:00] Speaker C: Nes. I'd go next door to my neighbors and play with them and then sometimes I would go and I didn't play. I just watched him play because it wasn't mine. Right. It wasn't that good at it. Like, I didn't know all the secrets on how to do certain things. I didn't know how to run fast. So when I was playing superintendent Super Mario and I'd always jump into the. [00:18:21] Speaker D: You need a running star. You need to go back. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:24] Speaker C: Once I got my super Neso, I want to say I was about 15, 1617. My favorite game on that console was the legend of Zelda, a link to the past. And to this day, I have played that game about three or four times. And I always go back to it. I'm probably playing it right now. [00:18:41] Speaker B: And dude, my first console was the NES and it was 90, Christmas of 93, I got it and it was when they were doing the sale and it was like, they were like $199. But they came with two games with Super Mario and then Duck hunt. And I remember thinking I was playing, my dad would give me an unconnected paddle and he'd play with my uncle and they'd switch back and forth and I thought I was playing, oh, the circle of life. [00:19:05] Speaker D: Yeah, how history repeats itself, you learned. [00:19:08] Speaker B: And so that was my first console. I was very addicted to Mario when I was a child because it was the one thing my mom would want to play with us. And then my first console that I purchased by myself was the Xbox. And it's because my friends at school would play halo. So I graduated school early and when I graduated school early, I got a job. And with my first paycheck, I got an Xbox. And I was like, even though that Christmas my dad had bought me a PS two. And so when I bought the Xbox, he's like, you want to be greedy? Sounds good to me. He's like, you owe me 249 for the PS two. So he charged me for the PS two as a lesson. As, if you want it all, you're going to pay for it all. My hard work and effort isn't appreciated. That wasn't enough for you? Perfect. You can go buy the second system and you can pay me for the system that I bought you. And that's the way my dad taught us lessons. And because I wanted to play Halo, and Halo was a. Microsoft was the first one to do exclusives. Before that, you had access to any video game on any platform. It was just multiple platform releases. But as soon as Xbox came out, they had all that. They had Fusion frenzy. They had Halo. They had a handful of exclusives directly to Microsoft. [00:20:11] Speaker A: Like, fusion frenzy. There was definitely like five good, strong. I think perfect. No, not perfect. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Dark was Morrowind. [00:20:18] Speaker A: I think there was oblivion on that. [00:20:20] Speaker B: It was oblivion, right. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Because when the 360 launched, they guaranteed it was backwards compatible. Yeah, because so many people were still playing. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And there were certain games that were released only for Xbox. And I was like, what the. Why aren't these? And I was a PlayStation kid up until that point because I had a PlayStation one, PlayStation two, and I thought that was the way of evolution. But when Microsoft just came out, it was amazing to me. And so those are mine. My next question to you guys is, tell me about a game that felt perfect for me. [00:20:46] Speaker C: Red Dead Redemption two is a perfect game. [00:20:52] Speaker B: Why? [00:20:56] Speaker A: And we're back. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Why? Sorry, I pressed the wrong thing. Why? [00:21:01] Speaker C: So I never played the original Red Dead Redemption. I played it afterwards. So I played it right after making faces right now. Like, why not? Okay, so I played Red Dead Redemption too. And this game was, like, amazing. Riding horses, fucking the shooting. The eagle eye is what they call it. Oh, eagle Eye is amazing. It's kind of like, have you ever played Max Payne? You've never played Max Payne? You've played Max Payne. [00:21:31] Speaker A: So not to correct you, it's the dead eye meter. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Dead eye meter. [00:21:33] Speaker A: The dead eye meter. Eagle eye is assassin's creed. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, let me guess. It sounds like the hitman thing where everything goes in slow motion. Yes. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Well, you can line up your shots. [00:21:41] Speaker C: Yes, you can line up your shots. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Did you ever play hitman? [00:21:44] Speaker A: I've only played the later hitmans, so it's not really that type of gameplay. But it is like Mad Max do your dead eye meter, and then you could go, oh, leg, torso, head, and. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Then your guy would boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. [00:21:55] Speaker A: But I mean, if you played it chronologically like that, it's still okay. Red Dead two definitely comes years before in the story, so you're still okay playing them in that order. [00:22:05] Speaker B: I did not know that. You know what? [00:22:07] Speaker A: For me, Red Dead two feels like the game they wanted to play, they wanted to make the first time, and they were limited, so they were like, oh, let's tell this story now. And then later we can finish it by telling it written reverse order. [00:22:22] Speaker B: You like that? What else did you like? What elements made it perfect to you? [00:22:28] Speaker C: Well, the graphics were amazing to me, the graphics were amazing. The gameplay is amazing. The story is amazing. The story is so good, it just pulls you in. It's a story about a man who. He's an outlaw. And you could play him as a good outlaw or bad outlaw. I always play as any game I play. I always play the hero or the good. [00:22:58] Speaker B: I believe you because you look excited right now. You're just so giddy. It's perfect. You know what? I can download it on my Xbox series. X. I'm going to download it now. I'm going to play it. Just because of your recommendation, I haven't played it. And one of the things was that so many people are playing. I know that people still play it online now on Steam. Like, I have a friend that he's the same age. Him and his buddies from Oklahoma and Iowa go and just play cards in that game for hours at a time. They sit in the bar and I'm just like, I didn't know this was a thing. So I didn't know that it was kind of like GTA. And so now I want to play the game because I'm like, you're still playing? He's like, yeah, bro, it's a fucking good game. [00:23:40] Speaker C: I still play from time to time. [00:23:43] Speaker A: So that was one of those things that a lot of people played cards that would just play cards. And I think when they did witcher three, so many people played Gwent, they actually made a whole separate game. And then you're like, okay, rockstar, make a whole different poker game. And they never did. [00:23:59] Speaker B: How about you, Tina? What do you feel is a perfect game? Have you had an experience with the perfect game or do you feel that's just perfect all the way through? [00:24:07] Speaker D: I feel like any games that I play, I go through these phases where I go through the cozy games. I started with Super Mario. I did complete Super Mario three after not completing it throughout my childhood. I've never seen the end, but I did end up finishing that. Pretty satisfying seeing the end credits. Most recently, we finished Super Mario 3D world. That one, we thought it was predictable. We're like, all right, this is the final boss level. Next thing you know, it's fucking tube. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Just kept going up. [00:24:35] Speaker D: I was like, why are we going to another world? And then we beat the boss level. No, you're still in the fucking clouds. I was like, it wouldn't end. So that one, I think, was the one that was the most unpredictable because every time that I thought we finished, we weren't, and the controller kept dying at the perfect time. When we would go, we ended up finishing it. [00:24:56] Speaker C: Really? [00:24:56] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:57] Speaker C: Can I add something to what I was saying earlier? [00:24:59] Speaker B: You can add whatever you want, but this is your podcast as well. [00:25:02] Speaker C: So this game was so good. I fell in love with this game. Okay? I was like, I have to play the first one, right? I have to go buy this game. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Stop rubbing your moose knuckle. [00:25:16] Speaker C: And so I'm like, okay, this was during pandemic, so I had a lot of time. I was like, I'm going to go to the store and buy this original game. And I'm digging through some of the games that I have and I'm like, oh, shit, I bought it and I never played it. That's how busy we are at work sometimes. I have so many games that I have bought and I have not played. So I grabbed that game and I sat down and I played the shit out of that game. And I have to say the story is amazing on that one, too. Actually, I played it in chronological order. Like, I played Red Dead Redemption two takes place before Red Dead Redemption. [00:26:02] Speaker B: I'm going to definitely play it. I'm intrigued now, right? And so I didn't know. I know it had a following and I understood that it still lives on and people are still playing it. So I'm like, it has to have depth. There's got to be something that's entertaining. How about you, Pat? [00:26:21] Speaker A: So I have a question for no way. So as a person that played, you know, the first one and then waited so much time, so much time begging rockstar, like, hey, I know GTA is important, but come on. Did you have a weird perspective? Like, okay, cool. They saved this guy, John Marston from like a bear attack or wolf attack, and then you play the next, you're like, oh, wow. He's like the main guy because we all fell in love with John. And then obviously we know how he then, you know, kind of seeing before his tranquil time before know roped back in. We get to kind of see the old John Marston before he kind of settles down and like, oh, I'm going to do this one thing for the government and then go away. So when you saw him in Red Dead two, you're like, okay, cool, I guess that's the guy from the first game. And then when you played the first game, you're like, oh, okay. Because that perspective, not a lot of people get that perspective because everybody was already so big fans. Such big fans of John already, right? [00:27:22] Speaker C: Yeah. As I played the ending with John, I wanted to know more. I want to know more of the backstory to him because I'm like, there's got to be something important here, the connection and everything to this second game. So, yeah, going and playing the original and just that story, how it connects to his old gang and stuff. It's fucking amazing. The writing on these stories are fucking great. [00:27:51] Speaker A: So you accidentally did what a lot of people wish they could do. A lot of people wish they could forget the first game and like, oh, I get to play it now in order. So you got to do on accident what a lot of people wish they could do. [00:28:04] Speaker B: I'm about to do it because I haven't played any. [00:28:06] Speaker A: So it actually comes out on Switch? [00:28:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's coming out soon. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Coming on Switch and PlayStation four and five. Yeah, I think Xbox is the only one not getting it because it's already backwards compatible. But it'll be out on Switch $50 on the 17th. [00:28:21] Speaker D: I'm about to buy it on PlayStation. [00:28:23] Speaker C: No, I think I want to play it on Switch. [00:28:25] Speaker D: Really? [00:28:25] Speaker B: On Xbox, you get it. If you have a game pass, you can download it. [00:28:28] Speaker D: Really? [00:28:28] Speaker B: Yes, I'm going to download it tonight. You know what, I'm a big fan of developers, right, because I look deeper into what the game is. Rockstar. When it comes to those open world games, they have the perfect formula. They do. They did Mafia, right? [00:28:45] Speaker C: No, they didn't. Mafia was done by two k. Are. [00:28:50] Speaker A: You thinking of La nor? [00:28:52] Speaker B: They did La nor. [00:28:52] Speaker A: La nor. [00:28:53] Speaker B: La Nor. La nor was one of the first games that introduced where, based on your answers and your actions, it would completely determine your story. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Well, also, after they remastered that game, a lot of people were like, oh, hey, this is easier, because that was the whole thing on the facial cues in that game to see if somebody's lying. And I know after the remaster, everybody's like, oh, hey, it's a lot more HD, so you can actually tell a. [00:29:16] Speaker C: Little bit what platform they release that version. [00:29:19] Speaker B: La Nor. They've updated it on every platform that. [00:29:23] Speaker C: They originally, because I own it, but I've never played it. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Play it. It's good. It's a great. [00:29:27] Speaker C: And then I could update it. Okay. [00:29:29] Speaker A: I don't know if you can update it for free, but I know they did release it and it's pretty. [00:29:34] Speaker B: They? Yeah. Because I saw it. It came up on my. You know how, GameStop, when you use the app, it has suggested, suggested for you. That came up on my queue, and I was like, oh, they remastered it and re released it. They've been doing that a lot. They did it for Gears of War, which I thought was what you're going to talk about. Yeah, but Mr. Pat, what is your perfect game? [00:29:59] Speaker A: So unfortunately, I'm going to have two. You're shaking your head. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Okay, thank you. I'll keep going. So links awakening and then Halo three, because links Awakening was on the handheld. Such an epic game. It's a console game on a handheld and didn't have any right to be that good. Everybody loves Ocarina. Of time and Ocarina of time is great. But Link's awakening had no right to be that good on a Game Boy. And it was amazing. And because of that game, we have all these things that got carried over to a lot of Zelda games and other Zelda games wouldn't be as good without that one. So for me, it's links awakening. But I can't overshadow Halo three. Halo Three was perfect because if the series ended on three, it was perfect. It gave you everything you wanted. [00:30:48] Speaker B: I like that answer. So we're going to go to my perfect game. I also have two. I was debating the whole time, but since you put up two, I'm going to put up two too. So here's my thing. My first perfect game was Halo reach because my transition into Microsoft and Xbox Halo brought me in the first. Halo was good. It was rough, it was hard. It introduced network parties, right? We'd hook up Xboxes and it was great. But Halo Reach was perfect because Bungie was turning the reins over to three four three studios. And when they did that, they did everything that every fan had ever wanted. We got to fly, we got to customize the Spartans. We got more Spartans other than Master Chief. We were able to do all these things in these vehicles that we hadn't been able to do before. And then the way the game was set up, how basically it was an epic goodbye by Bungie to Microsoft and handing it over to three four three and say, here, don't fuck this up. Which three four three has fucked that up? And so to me, Halo reach is beautiful. I played it on every single difficulty type because I was just so addicted. I wanted to see how long it would take. Unfortunately, it became easier as I played harder. And I was like, man. Because it was more strategic. I felt the tools, the usage of just the different powers, the different levels, fighting all the different skulls, it was just beautiful. My second game, and because I'm a big storyteller, I love stories. Bioshock by two K. It was literally, it came out of left field. The first time I was shown it, if someone was playing it on Steam and they're like, watch this. And I thought it was a movie because it felt like a movie. They're coming in on a plane, the plane crashes, then you're swimming. And then I was like, okay, what's going on next? I was like, why isn't he talking? And my budy's like, it's, you move the player. I was like, oh my God, that's beautiful. And then getting deeper in the story and I loved. What was the city called? [00:32:45] Speaker A: It's the city of rapture. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Rapture. Rapture. [00:32:48] Speaker A: I like how you keep looking at me every time you're like, I don't know. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I can't remember because I know you'll remember the details. [00:32:54] Speaker C: But Rapture, he's the encyclopedia of video. [00:32:57] Speaker D: Games and he remembers. [00:32:59] Speaker B: When I initially I was like oh man. Because even when you go into rapture and you come down that elevator and then you see that skyline, I was like man, this is great. And then you get into the story. I thought it was originally just like one of those thriller games where you get scared like kind of like dead space and stuff. But no, there was actual depth in the story and I loved. And two was even better because it filled in all the plot holes that one didn't, but one was a great introduction. So that Bioshock and Halo reach for me specifically for those points. [00:33:31] Speaker A: So it's kind of funny because when Halo Reach was announced they were like a standalone Halo game is not going to work because ODST was kind of a spinoff, right? It still takes place with three, so they're like standalone halo. [00:33:43] Speaker B: I love Odst going to work. [00:33:45] Speaker A: It's not going to happen. And then you look back on it like it's our favorite, it's our absolute. Without reach we wouldn't be in a lot of places and a lot of things weren't copied because of reach. So I remember when Reach came out and it's like you don't need three games. We like three games for the master chief and unfortunately we have like six now. But one standalone game, if told properly is devastating to you because it's over and you're just like, I can't believe I played that. That's the meme. Did I play the game or the gameplay? Me, that game is definitely that meme. And then the thing to BioShock, absolutely love the whole lore, even the newest one. But for Rapture it's such a dilapidated city but it's still so beautiful when you get that initial in the submarine but you're just sitting there going like I can see what it was supposed to be and it's still beautiful. I know that there was like it's not the golden age anymore, it's now dilapidated and it's in chaos but it's still so beautiful. You can see the dream in the game design. Like when they tell you the lore you're like, I can see it, I would love to have been there in. [00:34:51] Speaker B: The golden age because it was like, they try to incorporate steampunk, the mechanic revolution, and then you see the evolution of everything, right? And so then the tech is so high tech, it makes you think of other things. Like, was our civilization in the past more advanced than we were? Like, where did they get this technology? Because the guy is essentially in the 60s, right? That's when he's in that plane. It's a cargo plane. Right. That crashes. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So I think rapture. I think when you go back in the Lord, it's like 27, or I think it's supposed to be like 35, 40. [00:35:22] Speaker B: It's way ahead. [00:35:23] Speaker A: And then it's like 60 when you get to the dilapidated city. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And so when you're, like, in the mixture, you're like, man, they made a perfect cocktail because it really expands your mind. And when that released, Smithsonian had announced a wing being open in Washington, DC, specifically for video games, because it was the first time in history that it was considered an art form, which is beautiful because they give comic books or graphic novels and video games a whole wing, because at that point, they had seen the turn they had seen. Whoa. Video games aren't just a straight line getting to the princess, saving her. You're immersed in these stories. And it was so early on. So when they rereleased it on Switch, I bought it, right? Because it all came on one little thing, and I played it again. It's even prettier on the switch because you're holding it. Do not play it in your room in the dark because you can't go to sleep. [00:36:18] Speaker C: There isn't any giant spiders in there, is it? [00:36:20] Speaker B: No. [00:36:23] Speaker C: I'm glad you got that. [00:36:25] Speaker B: No, but I'm telling you right now, dude, those two games, to me, meant so much on so many different levels, and I feel like it was the first time in our generation had any recognition for any type of depth in our type of art forms, which wasn't your typical canvas and pencil. And it was like, wow, we can be immersed into these worlds. And that's when a lot of these production companies started really investing in telling great stories and making it more realistic and keeping you on your toes. Expansion packs and stuff like that were starting to be added, so to what. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Noe said about spiders. So a lot of games are now patching or adding arachnophobia mode. So it started with grounded. So they actually do arachnophobia mode where I think the spider looks like a clown or something or it looks harmless. What video game is this so grounded? It's kind of like, honey. I shrink the kids. Okay. Somebody's backyard. It's very much honey. [00:37:24] Speaker D: I shrink the kids. [00:37:26] Speaker A: So the other game was, there were certain quests on Hogwarts legacy. Me, my wife, and my daughter didn't do because of the spiders. Then they patched it with interactophobia mode, and we immediately. We turned it all the way up. We're like, no, we have to, like, I hate spiders. And it's weird because I love Spider man. [00:37:39] Speaker B: That's why I'm not a Spider man. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Fan, but I hate spiders. [00:37:42] Speaker B: The finding the death of what's his name in the spider cave and I was just like, this is too much, because they just jump and jump and jump. [00:37:50] Speaker C: They found this. So I'm showing a picture of. It's not a spider. It's actually. I believe it's like a camel spider. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Ns. Wait, what is it? NSFW. Not suitable for work. [00:38:02] Speaker A: That's definitely a camel spider. [00:38:03] Speaker C: Yeah. So they found this inside camel toe. Just the camel's all blurred inside the. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Is it a japanese camel toe spider? [00:38:15] Speaker B: We'll call him Caesar. In Caesar's office. [00:38:17] Speaker C: In Caesar's office? [00:38:18] Speaker B: Yes. Really? [00:38:19] Speaker C: Yes. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:38:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:21] Speaker B: Good. Did it bite him? [00:38:22] Speaker C: No. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Damn it. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Well, so the camel spiders are aggressive, so they will come after you. They will fight you. [00:38:29] Speaker C: He's got arachnophobia. [00:38:30] Speaker B: So now, next question. Tell me a game that you're playing now. We won't start with you. We'll start with Tina. [00:38:37] Speaker D: I keep jumping from games to games, but I did make you guys download Diablo, so that one is really fun. It's just that now that I know that the new season, or it started. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Yeah, season just started. Diablo four diallophore. [00:38:51] Speaker D: I don't have any experience with the other Diablo games, and that's why I was hesitant to download it, because my friend plays it on PC, and I downloaded it also on PC. Super fun, but then jumped onto Minecraft, and I can't get off. [00:39:06] Speaker B: You're okay. You know what? What it did was it created a bond between Noah and I because I was like, hey, level you guys. Right now we're level 22. [00:39:16] Speaker D: Oh, we're around the same. [00:39:17] Speaker B: What are you? [00:39:18] Speaker C: I think 20 something. I thought I was above you. [00:39:21] Speaker B: You probably are. But I played the other night. [00:39:22] Speaker C: Oh, did you? Okay, so I'm like, 21. So you just passed? [00:39:26] Speaker D: I think when I hopped off the other night, I think I just reached 30. [00:39:30] Speaker B: But are you using it on eternal mode, or is that your seasonal character? Because if you. [00:39:35] Speaker D: I'm not on seasonal character. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Okay, seasonal character, you're level zero. [00:39:38] Speaker D: Are you playing on seasonal characters? [00:39:40] Speaker B: Because I had to create a brand new character just to play with this guy because his seasonal character, he couldn't get out of the prologue. And it was like watching a kid trying to get out of a box. I can't get out. [00:39:54] Speaker D: You told me about it. You're like, guess who downloaded? I was like, who? You're like, no way. [00:39:57] Speaker A: So I told myself I won't get four until I play three all the way through. And I'm like, 50% through three. And it's just very monotonous. And I'm a little overpowered right now. So because of it, patched it so much to the point to where you're like, okay, that's kind of easy. Thankfully, it runs really well on the switch and NPC and all that stuff. And you can go back and forth. But I was like, I'm not getting four. Like, I want to play with mommy Lilith, but I'll wait, what are you playing now? I want to say, I got to say tears of the kingdom. I want to say it's tears of the kingdom. But then the problem is I'll start to boot up tears of the kingdom, and then I'll play a little bit of Diablo three, and then I'll jump over to. I'm trying to think. I always had my switch in front of me. I will jump over to ace attorney, or I'll jump on my gaming PC and play command and conquer because it's like a comfort food. And I'm like, oh, I'll just play one game, like an hour later. But the very last game was tears of the kingdom. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Nice. How do you like it, though? [00:40:53] Speaker A: I like it a lot. We actually had to get a second copy through our work rewards plan. I was able to get another copy because we have this thing at work. Oh, yeah. By the way, I also work with these three. We're all part of this. We all work same industry. So I thankfully got recognized. Like, hey, this person's awesome. And I'm like, really me? And I had enough points to buy another tears of the kingdom because my wife was playing it so much and I think she just jumped back to Hogwarts legacy. But we only have one copy and we have two switches. So I was like, well, I'm going to spend this 4700 points on another copy. And then I didn't really touch it, and I was like, now that I have it, I don't want to play it. [00:41:38] Speaker B: It's a weird, yeah, you're trying to create efficiency, but then you realize you don't need to, but, yeah. [00:41:43] Speaker A: So tears of the kingdom, it's one of those things where you're like, breath of the Wild is the best Zelda game. And then as soon as tears of the kingdom comes out and you're like an hour and you're like, it's the scene where in Toy Story was like, I don't want to play with you anymore. You're like, wow. Breath of the Wild was a beta test for Tears of the kingdom. Everything amazing. In tears of the kingdom, you obviously learned from Breath of the wild, but you looked at Breath of the wild like, this is a ten out of 1010. And now looking through the lens of Tears of the kingdom, you're like, oh, it's seven out of ten. [00:42:10] Speaker B: What's all the game? Did you just buy links? [00:42:14] Speaker D: Awakening. [00:42:16] Speaker B: Have you played it? [00:42:16] Speaker D: Not yet. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Okay. The game that I'm currently playing or the game that I'm currently on is I'm playing Hogwarts Legacy simultaneously with Diablo Four. Hogwarts legacy. It's beautiful. It is one of the best. It's what us as fans. Oh, I'm a big Harry Potter fan. Go team Slytherin. But it's beautiful. The concept is great. I can't wait until they release the patch. They said either at the end of the year or the beginning of the year where it's going to be open world and you're going to be able to play with people and you're going to be able to do assignments together at the school, which will be great, and it's going to be cross platform. So as soon as they release that patch, and that's the only reason I'm playing it slow, because with each update they're adding little things that you're going to be able to use in that open world format. I'm also playing the Elmo Flora. I play with you all the time. I feel like it's a great game. It reminds me of one of my favorite games from PS Two, which was champions of Norath, which was another RPG, which was great. I love the customization ability and I also enjoy the story thus far. I don't like that. For the season, we had to create new characters. It really effed me up because I'm already beefed up. My first character was a druid and I was so excited. I was like, oh, man. And then I got this cool headgear and I was like, oh, man. I'm a badass. And then they're like, season one release. It's like, you can't use your eternal character. I was like, what? I was like, why not? [00:43:55] Speaker D: When you come to the party dressed up and like, no costumes. [00:43:57] Speaker B: Yeah, get in there naked. And I was like, oh, God. [00:44:02] Speaker A: But it's funny because everybody else that played all the other Diablos were like. [00:44:05] Speaker B: What did you expect? [00:44:06] Speaker A: Did you not read the wiki? This is how it's been since forever. [00:44:10] Speaker B: No, literally. So when it comes to games, I mostly play games that are recommended unless it's something I'm waiting for. And this game, my sister was like, buy it. So I bought, like, the ultimate gold legacy edition. I paid $100, and then three days later, she's like, I'm playing something else. I'm like, oh, my God, what am I going to do? I got to use this game. I got to get $100 out of entertainment out of this. And so, no way. I was like, hey, bro, let's play, let's play, let's play. And he's not an RPG guy. It's been great teaching you. Yes. And seeing you, I'm very tactical. That's why I used to play a lot of first person shooters. And so I enjoy the fight scenes, but I like to be tactical. Here, you take eleven, I'll take five, and then we'll cross them, and then we'll beat them that way. At first, he was just standing next to me, like, no, they're going to follow me. It's like, they're supposed to follow you, bro. We're supposed to draw them towards the middle so they don't know where to go. But teaching you strategy and tactics and using some of my little bit of military expertise playing this game, we've gotten so much better as we've gone on. Like, whatever Castle we went to, the. [00:45:27] Speaker C: Last one, oh, my God, it was so long, but I died. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Every single playthrough that I watched on YouTube for people playing it, people just ran through it, picked up things and got out. Yeah, I haven't found a video where someone actually went through and beat it. And so I'm like, oh, my God. When me and him went through it, I was like, hey, bro, every walkthrough, people just ran in and ran out because it was just so much. But we got through the whole thing, right? And so those are the two games I'm playing. What are you playing. [00:45:58] Speaker C: Right now? At the moment, I'm just playing Diablo four. I was playing tears of the kingdom before that, but somebody told me I had to play Breath of the wild first. So I kind of put a stop on tears of the kingdom. And so I've just been playing with you. Diablo four. [00:46:15] Speaker D: What are you playing each game on? [00:46:18] Speaker C: I'm playing Diablo four on PlayStation four. [00:46:22] Speaker B: I got to teach you to turn off your sound settings on your TV because I can hear my echo in my voice. Because you're playing it off the speakers on TV. It's not just in your headset? No. [00:46:32] Speaker C: The last time we played I actually put all the sound in my headset. Yeah. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Because it was like I can hear my guy talking when he's talking. Come this way. And I was just like, jesus, bro. [00:46:43] Speaker C: Were you hearing it this last time? [00:46:46] Speaker B: This last time, all I heard was death, people dying, zombies dying. Okay, good, because it was intense. That castle took, it took us what, like 2 hours? [00:46:57] Speaker C: Like 2 hours. [00:46:58] Speaker B: No, the mission we took on. So first of all, when it comes to RPGs, I like to do the side quests specifically because the side quest gives you those little unique either apparel or weaponry. I don't do the main missions. I just load up on side quest and see what we can get. We've got some great gear. We got that bronze gear. So like the top of the top, like that bronze gold gear. And so that mission was the worst one we've ever done. It was because I was like, dude, is it going to end with a war flashback? No. We get in another room and then all of sudden a. We start being attacked again. He's like, and then all you hear is me, help. [00:47:44] Speaker C: So I would say I'm looking for loot in the other room. [00:47:48] Speaker A: If you guys are new to Diablo four, it's not a bad place to start, but probably don't go past three. So you could play three, but don't go past. [00:47:56] Speaker C: Don't go back to two. [00:47:57] Speaker A: Two and one are going to be brutal. [00:47:59] Speaker C: Okay. [00:48:00] Speaker A: I can't imagine three was way more handholdy than two and it still had enough of a difficulty. But this patched so much. Now to where? If you want it to be more difficult, you can. But four is the most accepting, welcoming open Diablo. [00:48:17] Speaker D: Oh, no. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Go back and play two. [00:48:18] Speaker B: The marketing for it is great. [00:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah, two is way more brutal. [00:48:22] Speaker B: Yeah. No, this game requires people to play. And I really noticed it when I was walking because we were stuck. We couldn't find. [00:48:33] Speaker C: I was holding the key. We couldn't find the key for the room. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's like, dude, it's supposed to be right here. I'm like, where is it? He's like, where's the door? So we went to the door. I could open the door because you had the key rule. [00:48:48] Speaker A: I don't watch a lot of twitch, but I would watch you two stumble through some stuff that would be hilarious. I just need a camera on each one of your faces. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Dude, how long have you been holding the key? He's like, how long have we been playing? I was like, I'm going to choke you. [00:49:03] Speaker D: No, especially my brother. He's a yeller we should talk about. [00:49:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, he is. He's like, no. I'm like, hey. He's like, why are you asking so many questions? Because I'm like a kid right now. I've never played any of these games. [00:49:15] Speaker D: I'm not yelling. I'm giving you instructions, right? [00:49:19] Speaker B: Hey. Or the jet ski. You're talking about the jet ski. [00:49:23] Speaker D: Oh, my God. Get off. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Get off. [00:49:25] Speaker D: And then we went to the lake. I started scooting back, right? To scoot back. Obviously, your weight has to shift to one side. And he's like, what the fuck are you doing? Get off. I jumped off, hit my knees, hit my thighs. All the front just completely scraped the back of this jet ski. And then. Did you see him zoom off? [00:49:44] Speaker A: I would pay good money to watch you two on the same team play rocket league. [00:49:50] Speaker B: Oh, no, dude, no. [00:49:52] Speaker A: I'm talking like, we go do some charity. I'll buy you whatever beer you want, all the tacos, whatever. You know how they want to watch you guys scream at each other? [00:50:00] Speaker B: No. You know how weapons and apparel, they have a color code, and based on the color code, it's the level of rarity. I'm like, hey, gold is super. He's like, where do you see gold? I have nothing. That's gold. [00:50:12] Speaker C: I'm like, what are you talking about? Like gold. Like, I have gold. [00:50:15] Speaker B: I have like 1240. He's like, I have 400K in gold. I was like, no, buddy. The peril has a gold card behind it. He's like, cards? What are you talking about? Cards? [00:50:24] Speaker D: They're color cards. [00:50:25] Speaker A: He might not see that. [00:50:26] Speaker B: No. I was like, no. I sent him a picture. He's like, why is all your stuff gold? And I was like, oh, my God. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Did you guys never play, like, destiny? Destiny two? No, it would drop different things for different people. [00:50:40] Speaker B: No, I play. But explaining it to a person that doesn't play RPGs regularly. [00:50:45] Speaker A: No, but I understand. But you're thinking, you see gold and you're like, it's gold, right? [00:50:48] Speaker B: There. [00:50:48] Speaker A: But he definitely doesn't see it because I didn't drop for no, no. [00:50:52] Speaker B: He was getting gold stuff. He just didn't know what. [00:50:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I had bronze stuff. I didn't know. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Looking at Noi's face, he now realizes. [00:51:00] Speaker B: He had a bunch of gear, white gear, loaded. He's like, I got some good stuff. He sends me a photo. I'm like, oh, bro, this is all the negative. [00:51:08] Speaker D: Not doing anything. [00:51:09] Speaker C: I had a whole bunch of gold stuff, and then I had, like, three white stuff, but I didn't know that the color codes meant anything again. I've never played RPGs. This is my first RPG. [00:51:22] Speaker B: He's like, oh, this knife changes my attributes. Did you not read the card? And he's like, no, bro. I just loaded the highest one. [00:51:29] Speaker D: What are you doing? The easiest way for me to determine was just like, all right, we don't want the minuses and it to be in red. We want to see pluses. [00:51:37] Speaker C: That's what I was doing. I was, like, comparing the cards, and I was like, oh, this one's okay. Plus 13. I'm like, okay. That's what I was going with. [00:51:47] Speaker D: I also wasn't upping my abilities because my friend that I was playing with, he also works with the company. He's like, oh, what'd you get next? I was like, what do you mean? He's like, your upgrade your ability. I was like, so we went through walking through that, and then I went from, like, one to like. [00:52:05] Speaker B: So, in the abilities, some of them that you pick some traits, it'll say, if you get this trait, it'll take away this trait. He took away a trait that he uses regularly, and then he started freaking out. He's like, I can't use the firewall. And it was. To explain that to him was just like. It was talking mayonnaise to jelly. And I was just like, this guy's. [00:52:26] Speaker A: Never going to understand two things. Did he pay for this after you talked him into it, or did you pay for it? [00:52:32] Speaker B: I paid for it. [00:52:33] Speaker A: So you talked him into dropping $60, and then you didn't even send him a YouTube video? [00:52:37] Speaker C: I dropped 120 because. [00:52:39] Speaker B: You dropped 120 because I had to. [00:52:42] Speaker C: Buy the game, and then I had to pay to play online because I don't play online. [00:52:46] Speaker A: His kids can't eat this week because he dropped the money on there. And you didn't send him a YouTube video like, hey, here's a five minute video to explain how you play Diablo. [00:52:57] Speaker D: I see the starving, trembling children, and you like, what the fuck am I doing? [00:53:02] Speaker B: The other day, they were like, talk to him. Daddy, what are you doing? They're there. He's like, yeah, bro, I'm playing with you. And they're here. He's, like, taking on the castle. Hold on. [00:53:12] Speaker A: So his kids are eating, like, sugar sandwiches over here. Like, peanut butter on Ritz crackers. [00:53:17] Speaker B: He makes more money than us, man. This guy works every day. He doesn't even take his weekend off. [00:53:23] Speaker A: I just imagine, like, no, it's okay. We'll get ketchup packets from McDonald's later and put in hot water. It's okay. So daddy can play Diablo four poorly. [00:53:32] Speaker C: I have done a thing where I have a lot of ketchup packages, and I just open them up, and I just dump them into my old ketchup container. [00:53:42] Speaker A: We're going to have random fry nachos. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Because most of those ketchup packets are high. [00:53:46] Speaker D: Can I check your refrigerator? Am I going to see butter? But it's going to have, like, soup or something in it. [00:53:51] Speaker C: It could. [00:53:54] Speaker B: No, but the game has been fun. It brought us together. Here's the thing. It's like he understands me. He knows that I'm not mad together. [00:54:02] Speaker D: Or forced you together after you yelled at him. [00:54:05] Speaker B: I don't yell at him. [00:54:06] Speaker C: He does. No, he doesn't realize. [00:54:09] Speaker B: I'm not yelling. I swear I'm not yelling. I'm instructing. [00:54:12] Speaker D: I'm going to have to record you. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Guys one day because this is what I say. You guys have to get a camera on each of you. [00:54:18] Speaker D: Yeah. Because in your head, it sounds like, all right, we're going to go through this little pathway, and then on our end, it's like, get the fuck through the pathway. [00:54:25] Speaker C: Hey, but in my defense, I do yell back, okay? [00:54:30] Speaker D: I feel like you yell back because of panic. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Like, stop yelling at me. [00:54:32] Speaker D: I'm going. [00:54:34] Speaker A: I imagine Nate's all like, okay, so we're going to go in here. We're going to go left. We're going to go here in a way's, like, all. He hears a mark. Wait, hold on, hold on. [00:54:49] Speaker B: Wait. [00:54:49] Speaker C: What the fuck did you just say? [00:54:52] Speaker B: You know what I love? I love it when I'm like, hey, we're going to go in this room. You're going to go left. And so we go in the room, and he follows me, right? And he's like. It's like, where are you going? He's like, they're chasing us. Like, you're supposed to go out. [00:55:03] Speaker C: He's a necromancer, okay? And all his buddies that follow him confuse me sometimes, and I'm like, fuck, there's something skeleton. [00:55:11] Speaker B: And I'm like, shooting. He plays scared, right? So he sees my guys come out of the ground, and then he starts shooting and using all his powers. What are you doing, bro? He's like, I'm saving us. Wait for them to spawn. I'm like, dude, those are my guys. What are you doing? [00:55:30] Speaker A: You guys have to not want, have to record each of you. Like, I don't care what we have to do to get this to happen. [00:55:38] Speaker D: You know that one video we watched a lot of TikToks, but where it's just like, somebody's talking, and it's just like, rabbit, dad scabbard is like, what? What are you saying? It's just like, rabbit dad scabbard. I can't imagine him just panicking. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. [00:55:52] Speaker B: You should have seen him when he lost his firewall. I was just like. He was going in circles trying to figure it out. [00:55:58] Speaker D: In these moments, are you laughing, or are you just, like, angry that you're not moving forward? [00:56:01] Speaker B: No. In those moments, I'm just like, all right, buddy, take a breath. Let's go back to kiboshed, and then I'll go. Go back to kiboshen. I'm like, all right, good night. We'll talk tomorrow. And I log off. [00:56:12] Speaker A: So I'm 110% behind, away if you ever want to get revenge, because obviously, we all work for the same company, and Nate over here needs a favor. And I'm like, no wonder this is about the time I'll cover for you. We have an extra day to fuck around, so. Yeah, definitely, definitely miss some parts in that order. [00:56:32] Speaker B: We need. No, but you know what? It's out of love. Right? Because. But I give you props when props are due. Now you do? Because I really do. Like, when he actually listens and we do become tactical. [00:56:45] Speaker A: That cast when he actually listens. [00:56:48] Speaker B: No, because sometimes I think he runs off, right? He's like, where'd you go? I was like, bro, you were right behind me. He's like, oh, I like these shit. [00:56:55] Speaker D: He's like, breaking barrels. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, I found a cabin. I'm like, cabin weird, bro. And he's like, well, come where I am. I'm like, where are you? And I see him on the map. He's way across the map. This guy ran off, and I'm, like. [00:57:10] Speaker C: Still exploring over here. [00:57:12] Speaker B: This guy's like, I found a cool shovel. I'm like, bro, we don't have shovels. That's a. Like, what are you doing? [00:57:20] Speaker A: I just imagine the PTSD that no way has. He's like, I think I like this game. [00:57:25] Speaker B: You know what? That's why I don't play games like Fortnite anymore, because I'm so tactical, and when people don't listen, I'm like, what are you doing? We could have won that one. [00:57:37] Speaker D: I would just log on. I'm ready to get you if he. [00:57:41] Speaker A: Comes to work with sunglasses on, because you're abusing him. He's got a black eye like, I'm reporting you. [00:57:46] Speaker D: Blink twice. You feel like. [00:57:51] Speaker B: I'm not that bad. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Turn slightly pale if you need help. [00:57:55] Speaker C: No. [00:57:57] Speaker A: A lot of sweat on your forehead. [00:57:59] Speaker C: There was a lot of sweat on the forehead. [00:58:00] Speaker B: No, we're doing well. [00:58:03] Speaker C: No, we are. [00:58:04] Speaker B: Tell me you didn't feel accomplished after. [00:58:05] Speaker C: No, actually, these are really aggressive words. [00:58:09] Speaker A: Tell me you're having fun. [00:58:11] Speaker C: I am having fun. [00:58:12] Speaker D: Tell them you're having fun now. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [00:58:17] Speaker C: Yes, I am. [00:58:19] Speaker B: No, I think if you didn't have fun, you wouldn't, because I invite you. I'm like, hey, bro, let's do this. And it's like, tonight, after we wrap up, I'm down. I bought Nathi one of those little tent house things to play in. She's like, don't bother me. I'm like, all right. I guess last night she wanted to sleep in there. [00:58:37] Speaker C: Really? [00:58:37] Speaker B: Yeah. She's like, daddy, do we have a sleeping bag? No, we don't, because then I would have to sleep on the couch. And I'm like, no, but if you want to play tonight, we can play. Do you want to play with us? [00:58:49] Speaker D: I'm like, knee deep and building my village right now. [00:58:53] Speaker A: I say, like, knee deep and creepers. [00:58:57] Speaker B: You should play with us. Wait, what system do you have? [00:59:00] Speaker A: No, I'm waiting for the finish. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Three. What systems do you have? [00:59:02] Speaker A: All of them except for PS five. [00:59:04] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, you have an Xbox? [00:59:06] Speaker A: Xbox Series X. Yeah, dude, you know what? [00:59:08] Speaker B: I'll throw down 30. You want to throw down 30? [00:59:11] Speaker A: Let me finish. Three. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Okay, fine. Jesus. [00:59:14] Speaker A: Yeah, but we need a client. I've played these games. So you guys are like, oh, yeah, we're only at this level. I'm like, give me a weekend. [00:59:19] Speaker B: I know. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Give me, like, 10 hours. I'll be at your level in 10 hours. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Yeah, you probably would be because it takes us so long to get through a room. [00:59:27] Speaker A: I like it how you look at you. Look at your sister, like, do you want to play after that whole like, no way. Do you need help? Do you want to play? Are you sure you're going to have fun? Not Minecraft can have fun in Minecraft. [00:59:41] Speaker D: It's gotten pretty spooky, I'm going to say. [00:59:43] Speaker C: Yeah, there's a new update that came out on Minecraft. [00:59:46] Speaker D: Yeah, you can run into a warden. If you start mining, you'll run into this big motherfucker. [00:59:52] Speaker C: Really. [00:59:53] Speaker D: One smack, you're dead, you're gone. [00:59:54] Speaker C: It's over. [00:59:56] Speaker A: It's crazy to see what Minecraft has become because I remember the alpha and it was just kind of like, hey, do you like Legos? Well, this is like Legos. And there was nothing to it. They started adding enemies and things, but it was such a bare bones experience. [01:00:10] Speaker B: My next question is what is the next game or what's a game that's coming up that you guys want to play? I'll start with Noah. [01:00:16] Speaker C: I currently don't know what's coming up. I'm not up to date with any of the new games coming out. [01:00:21] Speaker B: There's nothing you're looking forward? [01:00:23] Speaker C: No, like I said, I haven't really looked into anything coming up. [01:00:29] Speaker A: We just talked about Red dead into great length, but I'll be getting it on the switch so I can play it again. It's such a fantastic game. Okay, I digress. [01:00:37] Speaker C: That's the one I am looking forward to because I saw that. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Are you going to play it on the Switch? [01:00:41] Speaker C: I do want to play it on the switch. [01:00:42] Speaker B: I don't know if I should wait for the Switch or if I could just. Should I just play it on Xbox. [01:00:46] Speaker C: To play it well. And that's the thing is you could play it on PlayStation four also. [01:00:51] Speaker A: I don't know if it's cross progression. [01:00:53] Speaker C: But I don't think it is. [01:00:55] Speaker B: Well, my buddy plays I think it is crossline. [01:00:58] Speaker A: I've played it four times and I've never regretted starting over. How long is it if you run through it and don't do every side mission? It's definitely one of those games when you play it, you really feel the era because Red Dead two is way more open world. And there's a lot of stuff you can skip in Red Dead. You kind of go, okay, I did everything in this area and then it gives you the mission to move on. There is some stuff you can skip, but you can literally do everything in like 40 hours. [01:01:24] Speaker C: Pat, have you done the glitch where you can go into the old map? [01:01:29] Speaker A: Yes. So there was the glitch. I want to say it's on Xbox, but, yeah, you can go into the old area, and it's one of those things that when people were glitching into that area, the rumors about a remaster, because it was so almost done that people were like, immediately going, oh, they're going to be remastering the other one because there's no way they would do this much work for nobody to see it. Right. Grand theft auto. But there's a lot of places in Grand Theft auto that have done that. People will glitch out of five and stuff, and it's like, wow, this is really detailed over here. And they forgot about it, but so you could glitch out of it. And then I know there has been some. I think it's not a direct mod, but people have emulated it and then have cracked it and then is able to kind of add a mod to that whole section. [01:02:14] Speaker C: Really? Is that on PC? [01:02:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:15] Speaker A: So you have to emulate it on PC. And then content creators out there doing mods for it, so then they'll actually populate it so you can actually play the. I think they did some missions from the first game, but they don't, like, tie into the second game, but they definitely did that because they did that for Grand Theft Auto five. [01:02:31] Speaker B: Really? [01:02:31] Speaker A: Because there's a whole lots of sections of Grand Theft Auto five that you could not go to unless you cracked it a game. [01:02:37] Speaker B: I'm really excited for Assassin's Creed. Mirage. I was a big fan. I played every game up until Edward Kinnaman, which was. They were part of, like, the UK. [01:02:47] Speaker A: Kenway. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Kenway. Yeah, Kenway. And so I really enjoyed those games. And then that's when they started to kind of get weird and they felt forced. My favorite. [01:02:55] Speaker A: They went more RPG. Yeah, they went more. [01:02:58] Speaker B: And so. And for me, it was all about the story about the assassins. Right. It was so, like, I love Ubisoft. European production house. They're great. [01:03:06] Speaker A: French Canadian. [01:03:07] Speaker B: French Canadian. Okay. And I really liked their storytelling early on. Like Altair, the very first assassin, perfectly done. It drew everybody in. Itua de Torre de Terrence, which was the second assassin. Amazing. I loved his story. I loved the fact that you incorporated historical moments that really didn't happen, but the fact that they were teaching you something while playing the game, to me, was attractive. Mirage is supposed to be an homage to those type of games. I can't wait. I think it looks pretty. It's the first assassin's creed that I'm going to play for a while. I have an assassin's Creed statue on my desk at work. And I enjoyed the entire assassin's Creed story. I love the film that came out, that attached it because it was standalone. It had nothing to do with your. [01:03:50] Speaker A: It's Arnold, right? Arno's on your desk. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Yes, Arnold. I'm excited for that because I used to dive deep. I remember when Black Flag came out for the Xbox One, and I think. [01:04:02] Speaker A: 360, no, black Flag. [01:04:04] Speaker C: Black Flag was 360. [01:04:06] Speaker A: Unity was Xbox One. So it was broken when it launched. Black. It launched for rope. Black Flag was on 360, and then. [01:04:12] Speaker B: No, Black Flag was on one. [01:04:14] Speaker C: It was, but it was also on 360, just like it was also on PS three and four. [01:04:19] Speaker A: Okay, same thing with Rogue. Rogue was the last one on 360. [01:04:22] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:04:24] Speaker A: Cormac Flag was good, and I felt, okay, cool. [01:04:29] Speaker B: But then when they started getting into this other stuff, and I felt like, you said two RPG, I was like, this is ridiculous. They're trying to get too complex, and they're pulling away from what made these games viable. [01:04:43] Speaker A: So what was the first one that you played that felt too RPG? Because I think when they went ahead and they started doing the trilogy, which was odyssey, origins, and VALHALLA as its own KInd of trilogy. [01:04:56] Speaker B: SO, yeah, odyssey was the one that. Odyssey and what was the second one? [01:05:01] Speaker A: So odyssey, origins. [01:05:03] Speaker B: Odyssey and origins, they fell. I love valhalla. [01:05:07] Speaker A: OrIginS for me was like, perfect. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Did you play Valhalla? [01:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I love games. I like the games set in ENGland. I don't even know Syndicate. SynDicate's FantaStic because I've been all over LOnDOn, so it's like, oh, wow, this is recognizable. But so valhalla for me was, oh, I love, we love Vikings, and they're conquering England again, I love. But it's like Origins for me was like, not in, oh, hey, ThEy're trying to ShoehOrn EgyPt in. Like, it felt NatUral. Odyssey felt forced. So odyssey felt very forced, and Valhalla felt like a good secession to kind of, I kink it. [01:05:43] Speaker B: Valhalla pulled me back in, and then it was the last installment, and then I found out that Mirage is going to be more tied into the original, to altair and all that stuff. And they're trying to do a bunch of craziness. And so I'm like, okay, I want to play this because hopefully they went back to that blueprint. Just good storytelling. [01:06:04] Speaker C: So I've only played the first one, and I'm still yet to finish the game. It's good. I was playing it on PS three, and funny story. I had caught COVID at the time. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Didn't you catch it twice? [01:06:17] Speaker C: I caught it twice, yeah. The first time I caught it quarantined in my room. And I played the shit out of that game. [01:06:24] Speaker B: It's a good game. Altair is one of my favorite assassins because of where he comes from. Right. I felt like it was a good foundation for the entire series. It tells you the assassins were an elite group of people that went after the Templars to ensure that there was right and wrong was balanced. Whereas the Templars, all they focused on was greed and money and power. And so the assassins being who they were and the people that they chose, because I'll tell you if I remember correctly, he was poor. He wasn't of wealth or money. And so it wasn't until you saw Eto, the king, that basically did the same thing, the Aladdin story made money and then became rich and became this huge person and then had all these parties and all these things. And it was great. I'm excited for Mirage. That's my game. Do you have a game that you're excited for? [01:07:16] Speaker D: I haven't really been following anything, but as I was looking online right now, Super Mario Wonder. [01:07:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, 2d. It's going to be 2d. It's exciting. Everyone says in Japan they've been doing soft release parties. And supposedly it is the 2D Mario that every Mario fan wanted. And it's amazing. Some of the powers and stuff. You can see clips right now on YouTube. It looks beautiful. [01:07:41] Speaker D: Comes out October 20. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Perfect Christmas gift. Stocking stuffer. [01:07:45] Speaker C: Are you guys familiar with watchdogs? How do you like watchdogs? [01:07:50] Speaker A: So the watchdogs one, I think, was a poorly executed dream, right? So it's one of those things where it's like, hey, here's our dream of what we want to create. And it's funny because the game now is more recognized for the controversy of, hey, this is a pre rendered trailer. And they told you it was a gameplay. And then when the game came out, it's like looking at an Xbox Series X game or Ultra high PC game and then looking at something on Nintendo 64. Because they showed you off this amazing game with all these gameplay features, and then they gave you 30% of it. So the game Cyberpunk. But they make good on their promise eventually. Cyberpunk, no man's sky. And there's a couple of games out there that eventually did redeem themselves. And that's very hard to do. [01:08:38] Speaker B: 76 that came out. [01:08:41] Speaker A: It was one of the Fallout 76. It eventually redeemed itself, but that was actually a harder thing to do. [01:08:46] Speaker B: The preorders were horrible. [01:08:47] Speaker A: Well, so that's one of those things where the game is now remembered for its controversy. So, watchdogs, if it was never hyped the way it was, it would have been an okay release because you were expecting, hey, I can hack stuff. [01:08:59] Speaker B: Cool. [01:08:59] Speaker A: They showed you an unobtainable dream. And then the second one, the third one, kind of delivered more, but then it kind of went the crazy, zany route. So the first one, it's more of a, hey, this is realistic in a way. And then the second and third one are just. It's almost like the infamous series. The first game is you have all these superpowers and stuff, and then the next ones are just crazy and zany. [01:09:24] Speaker B: My last question for the group, if there's a ten year old noe listening to this right now in the UK, because now we have UK listeners, what game would you recommend for him to play on a new gen system? Something that you feel not red dead, because I heard it's a big graphic. I'm saying, what game do you think would be a great starter game for the new consoles? [01:09:44] Speaker C: For the new consoles? [01:09:46] Speaker B: Yes. Like Switch PS five. Like any of the new consoles. Xbox X series. Xbox. What's the other one? S series? [01:09:53] Speaker C: I would recommend. I mean, if I was playing on a switch, I would recommend tears of the kingdom only because that's what I've played on there. And then maybe doing some retro games, like some of the stuff that they have, the emulators, they have, the Nintendo, the super Nintendo. [01:10:09] Speaker B: Those are fun. [01:10:10] Speaker C: Yeah. As always, I would probably revisit a link to the past. That's one of my favorite games, and it's accessible on that platform. [01:10:21] Speaker A: Pat, what was the question? [01:10:25] Speaker B: There's a ten year old Pat listening in Canada right now, and he's like, oh, man, these guys are great. What one game would you on one of the new gen systems would you. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Recommend he play so ten? I'm trying to think. When Pokemon came out, I think it was in middle school. So I would recommend Pokemon. I would recommend Pokemon. The newer, the newest one. It's more open world. It's not as complete open world as they claimed. They're like, you can go anywhere. It's like, yeah, but that gym battle is still impossible. It doesn't scale. So Pokemon, it's just a fun game. I beat it and I haven't really touched it again, but it's still. Ten year old me would have loved it. 13 year old me loved it. [01:11:07] Speaker B: How about you on the new gen system. What game do you recommend? [01:11:10] Speaker D: I was actually playing Yoshi's crafted world the other night, so I do recommend that one for anybody in that age range. And we have our niece who just turned nine years old, and I feel like she'd love it. It would be a little easier than Super Mario 3D world, which we did try to play with her, but I think it was a little confusing when it's not linear, so it just doesn't Yoshi, like you are moving forward. It does move in different directions, but I feel like that one's a little easier. And then you also get the benefit of getting costumes. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Yep. And then. So for me, I would recommend any of the Star wars games. The new ones, they're just so fun because you don't feel like you have to do everything. The one with, what's the newest one called? [01:11:49] Speaker A: It's, I think, fallen Order and then Jedi survivor. [01:11:53] Speaker B: Jedi survivor, yeah. It's so good. And you played it. Yeah. So I played the first one, the second one that just released. I didn't. [01:12:01] Speaker C: Okay. [01:12:02] Speaker B: Because I'm so knee deep in Hogwarts legacy, I don't want to buy it and then let it sit there. I really like the way that you can customize everything, and it really makes it feel like a complete game. It's the first time I've ever really enjoyed a Star wars game because most of them are very linear. You're on one side or the other. [01:12:19] Speaker A: And you're fighting each other. [01:12:20] Speaker B: This one, you have choices, and you see how the force develops and you develop all these things, and it's fun. And I feel like a ten year old version of me would really enjoy it. I'm going to pass the narration part over to pat. He has a couple of questions. Go. [01:12:37] Speaker A: I just had a couple of questions for the group. First question is something we didn't really touch on at all, but I wanted to kind of go around the group and see what was everybody's favorite arcade game. [01:12:45] Speaker B: So I'm going to go first. My favorite arcade game was the Ninja Turtles, the arcade game where you can go and you can play as any other turtles. And it was a box. And I remember I had great memories of playing it at the laundromat because we used to go to the laundry mat a lot as a kids. The few times I was able to play it, it was great, and I was like, man, now they've rereleased it. Arcade one up or whatever. What's the company's name? [01:13:11] Speaker A: They're releasing the physical copies or, like, they rerelease? [01:13:14] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they just rereleased the actual cabinet. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's one up. [01:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's one up. So they rereleased it, and it's great. I'm going to get myself that for Christmas, and I'm going to set it up in here because it's beautiful. The game is complete. It's fun. It's between that one and Sunset Riders, those two games. Sunset Riders is the only arcade game I ever finished in an arcade. I spent probably $100, and it was when I was in the military. And we found an arcade at a pizza joint in downtown Seattle. And he had a sunset Riders cabinet. And we played until we finished it. We had a couple beers, we had pizza. It was great. And was just like, but that game is fun. I really like poncho. Bury me with my money. All right, go. [01:13:59] Speaker C: Okay. Can I tell you guys a story? [01:14:01] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:14:02] Speaker C: Okay. So I'm going to answer the question real quick. I think my favorite arcade game will be, I have to. The 1990s X Men game and my second favorite game. [01:14:12] Speaker B: Oh, can I say something real quick? Did you hear that they're going to change the name of X Men? [01:14:15] Speaker C: Are they? [01:14:16] Speaker B: Yep. [01:14:16] Speaker C: What are they gonna change? [01:14:17] Speaker B: They're gonna call them non binaries. [01:14:18] Speaker C: Oh, really? That's pretty awesome. [01:14:20] Speaker A: So in the MCU, they're gonna call them the. [01:14:23] Speaker B: That. [01:14:24] Speaker A: They're not gonna be the X Men. It's gonna be the mutants. And then that's kind of how they're gonna be doing it. [01:14:28] Speaker B: I don't like it. I understand that we're evolving as a society, but I don't think the names of these things. It's kind of like the Washington Redskins. There's so much tradition behind these things. Right. And the thing is, when you change the name, I understand that you're trying to be politically correct, but there was no negative or there wasn't anything that was meant by the. [01:14:51] Speaker A: They're still going to call the team the X Men, but they're gonna be called the mutants. So everybody's gonna be the mutants. And it's like, oh, that's the. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Disney wants to erase the whole X Men everything. [01:15:04] Speaker C: I don't understand why they would do that. Because X Men, what the X Men represents, when the comic was made, it was made because of, this was the way they told a story about racism, because the X Men were not, society didn't like them. And it's kind of like a take on racism. So I don't understand why they would change that name, X Men. [01:15:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, it was definitely much the struggle of racism and being gay. That's very much. When you go back to those writers, they were like, people would come out like, what was this about? They're like, well, being excluded and being born a certain way and not being able to change it. And we can have this person born with, in your hands. You know, she can't control what she does. And same thing with Gambit. He can't control. Yeah, no, I know she's gambit and the fan fiction you have between them and they run away together. I get it. It was about people being gay and coming out and then that, hey, I was born this way and I can't change it. And hey, I was born black, I was born asian or I was born Mexican. And then in the world that is the 60s, it's like, hey, this person's black. And it's like, how dare they be black? It's like, well, this person has claws. Well, how dare they have claws. It's a very much, hey, we're excluded. We were born this way for no reason. We didn't do this. [01:16:32] Speaker B: Right. [01:16:32] Speaker C: And it was one of those comics that added different ethnic backgrounds like you had. When they added, I think it was the 70s, they added storm. Sun. It's not sunspot. I can't remember. He was japanese, though. I'll have to look up the name. But they added people from different backgrounds. So the comic has always represented that struggle with multicultural, multicultural backgrounds. [01:17:00] Speaker B: No, I know. And for me, it's been an integral part of my life. You know that we talk about this. I don't agree with the change you did, sunfire. Yes. So you were saying? Yeah. Favorite cabinets, X Men. And then what? [01:17:13] Speaker C: And my second arcade game that I love is the Simpsons. [01:17:19] Speaker B: Bart and the swing skateboard. [01:17:21] Speaker C: Yes. [01:17:22] Speaker B: I felt like he was op in that game because he was the only one that had a weapon because Homer was such a loser, running around and like, what are you doing, bro? [01:17:30] Speaker C: Right. So here's my story. And it's kind of funny. I grew up in know in LA, you walk everywhere. I walked everywhere as a kid. I got on my bike and went from one city to the next city looking for comics and by myself. My mom never knew this, but my story goes back to this one time as I was getting older. I think I was already in 6th grade and I would see all my friends walk home alone. And I was embarrassed because my mom would walk, would go all the way to the front gate, pick me up and take me to school. I mean, take me home. And so I told my mom, like, hey, could you let me walk home by myself? And she said, well, what I'll do is I'll meet you halfway. I think she understood that. I was kind of embarrassed that she'd go pick me up all the way to one day. I was like, I had some change and I wasn't allowed to really play video games. Like, I would walk home, walk into a store and see all my friends playing, and they would play cabal and all these other games, and I would just watch for a little bit, and then I'd be like, okay, I got to go, right? And then one day I had enough pocket change, and I walked into one of the arcades, and I'm playing with everybody, and next thing you know, a couple of hours have gone by, and I didn't even know, and I'm going home. Walking home by myself. I didn't even meet my mom that time. Anyways, she runs into me and she's like, yeah, I got in so much trouble. But that's my little story about arcades in my head. [01:19:00] Speaker A: Cannon. No way was going to be 6ft tall. And his mom caught him that day. [01:19:07] Speaker C: It was just funny, though, you guys talking about arcades. Just reminded me of that moment. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. How about you, Tina? Do you have any cabinet games you. [01:19:15] Speaker D: Enjoyed, like the button smashers? Yeah, no, I didn't really grow up with those. I didn't really go to arcades unless you had Internet. The only closest thing that I could reference to is Kart. Then we would go to Dave and Buster's. [01:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I love Mario Kart. At Dave and Busters. It's one of my favorite games. [01:19:35] Speaker A: That's a valid answer. I mean, it could be a new game. It could be something you played last week. Mario Kart. [01:19:39] Speaker D: Yeah, that was more of my era when you would be in town and you'd take me to Dave and Buster's every. [01:19:44] Speaker B: I. I influenced you heavily. Like, I'm like, let's do this. This is cool. And I didn't even ask you, do you like, like, I'd be just like, no. [01:19:52] Speaker D: You'd be like, we're doing this. [01:19:54] Speaker C: Yeah, that's how I feel sometimes. [01:19:57] Speaker A: You're going to play this game, damn it. [01:19:59] Speaker D: He's like, hey, like it. [01:20:00] Speaker C: Go do this now. And do this. And do this. [01:20:05] Speaker A: I already bought it and downloaded it to your system. I have your credit card on file. [01:20:08] Speaker B: I didn't even realize that this guy didn't. So I didn't know that PlayStation had. You had to pay for it to play online. Oh, man. [01:20:15] Speaker D: And he just kept convincing him, yeah. [01:20:17] Speaker B: I was like, bro, are you going to do this? I was like, come on, man, let's do this together. And then one night we got on, and I was like, tina, do you want to play? You're like, no, my soul isn't into it today. [01:20:28] Speaker D: I'm like, I don't think I'm going. [01:20:31] Speaker C: To be a mob. [01:20:33] Speaker D: I was like, I wasn't in that space for that. [01:20:36] Speaker A: So mine's very specific. Mine I have, too, obviously, x Men was because you can play so many people, but then it's turtles in time because we played the original, but you're like, oh, I'm not expecting another good one because turtles will last forever. And it's got the old, it's the live action pictures of people on the cabinet. You feel like the thing's going to fall apart. [01:20:58] Speaker B: You really do. [01:20:59] Speaker A: And you're like, this is so much fun. And then turtles and time come out, and you're like, oh, my gosh. They fixed everything. And it's an actual story and might have been the first game I actually completed. It was like $20 in quarters. You would beat the countdown, right? So you would go, do not play. And you'd run to the change machine. You put, like, your dollar in, $2 in, and then you'd come back, and then you'd try to beat the countdown. But it was always at the Gold coast bowling alley, really, because we would have birthday parties there and stuff. So that's a very old vegas thing. We'd go bowling there, and they'd have a little bit of an arcade and bowling. Birthday parties were a thing in the. They're like, oh, no, we got Kate coming up. It's like, I need to play x men. I need to recruit three people to come play with me. [01:21:42] Speaker B: What was your second question? [01:21:44] Speaker A: So my second question is, I know the two of you can probably answer this, and then I know you have nieces, so you can answer it as well. What was the last game you played with your kid? [01:21:53] Speaker B: So the last game I played with my kid was, it's a wi u game with the rabbits. The little rabbits. [01:22:00] Speaker A: Raising rabbits. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Nathy really likes that. They're stupid, and she just watches them on the screen. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Let me ask, does she yell at them the way you yell at? [01:22:09] Speaker B: In a way, she's a little bit more demanding. She's like, stupid rabbit. And I'm like, because I think about, like, do you hype yourself up? Like, this at home with your mom? Because if you do, I'm in trouble. [01:22:21] Speaker D: I wonder who she gets it from. [01:22:22] Speaker A: It's all that cake you feed her for breakfast. [01:22:24] Speaker B: Well, the thing is, like, I can. [01:22:26] Speaker D: Imagine her walking home that one night after watching the machine and her kicking the door in at her mom's house. The machine. [01:22:34] Speaker A: No, you know, here's Bert's fat. The machine. [01:22:37] Speaker B: Quick little fact. My mom talked to her mom the last time. Crossed paths because my mom took Nati for me. I guess her mom was like, nati talks about you guys a lot, about Nana and pop up. I guess there's days she wakes up and she's like, take me to Nana and pop ups. My kid's mom was trying to figure out where at, like, relatively where I live. And do you guys live close to each other? And my mom's like, yeah, like, next door basically just makes it so my kid takes whatever she gets here home. And I know she has siblings down there, so I can only imagine. Because here she's the alpha, right? Because she runs the world. She's like, I want this. Let's do this. [01:23:14] Speaker A: She'll be the CEO of a Fortune 500 company in, like, 22, and she. [01:23:17] Speaker B: Does everything she wants to here. So back home, I can guarantee she might be the smallest, and she's running shit. She does not give. Like, she yells at this TV because the revenues are dumb. Some of the stuff that you're like, what are you doing? And so she enjoys it, and she enjoys playing it. And then we played it on the Wi U and on the switch because I bought it for. It was a wi game. And I just love. I love the stupid rabbits. [01:23:42] Speaker A: Did she bully you into buying it? Like you bullied? [01:23:44] Speaker B: No way. Into buying. [01:23:46] Speaker D: I'm just kidding. [01:23:47] Speaker A: Buy the special edition. I need all the DLC ultra platinum. [01:23:52] Speaker B: No, I was the only one that bought it because Tina was like, just get the basic game. I was like, but the special edition comes with all this other stuff. [01:23:59] Speaker A: Did you go, hey, I can buy digital? And she's like, no, I need the physical copy. I need to have the case. [01:24:04] Speaker B: They don't make a physical copy for Microsoft. It's only PlayStation physical copy. So I was just like, well, I guess I'm screwed for the album. Yeah. Really? Yeah, it's only a PlayStation physical thing. You can't find it. [01:24:19] Speaker A: There's a game that's coming out where it's like, the super duper special edition comes with the case, the aluminum case, and the game's not in it. It's a code, really? [01:24:28] Speaker B: So what's the game you played with your kids? [01:24:31] Speaker C: Last game I remember playing with them was injustice, and they really love of it. Remember the other day when you heard my daughter, she was a little antsy because she wanted to play injustice, and. [01:24:42] Speaker B: You took over the PS four. [01:24:43] Speaker C: And I was. Yeah, I took over. [01:24:44] Speaker B: Tell her to go earn some money and buy one. [01:24:46] Speaker C: Right? [01:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And be like, hey, oh, guess what. [01:24:48] Speaker C: She did the other day? So she goes on offer up and. [01:24:51] Speaker B: She'S like, the littlest one? [01:24:52] Speaker C: No, not the littlest one. My twelve year old. [01:24:54] Speaker B: The middle one? [01:24:55] Speaker C: Yeah, the middle one. Yeah, my twelve year old. So she says, dad, there's this Xbox One on offer up. It's $50 or it's for $45. I was like, I got a little scared because I'm like little girls making deals over offer up. I'm like, what the hell? [01:25:11] Speaker D: Let me see your phone. [01:25:12] Speaker B: Who are you talking to? [01:25:15] Speaker C: And I'm just like, okay. I said, all right, I'll get it for you. [01:25:19] Speaker B: Did you buy it? [01:25:19] Speaker C: I did buy it. [01:25:20] Speaker B: Is it good? [01:25:21] Speaker C: It's good. And it's the original big brick Xbox one. [01:25:28] Speaker B: You didn't go to Mario? He listens to this podcast, by the way. [01:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah, well, again, she was the one that found it. And she found it for $45. [01:25:35] Speaker B: Did you go see Mario? [01:25:36] Speaker C: I did not. [01:25:37] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Mario's our guy. I need to introduce you to Mario. He's our geek. [01:25:41] Speaker C: You haven't introduced me either. [01:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah, well, because the last few times I invited you, would you tell me? [01:25:45] Speaker C: I don't remember. [01:25:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's too hot. [01:25:47] Speaker D: I had a seal. [01:25:50] Speaker B: My daughter said they don't want to be exposed to the sun. [01:25:52] Speaker D: Hey, to be fair, that day it was 115 degrees. [01:25:55] Speaker B: It was. And in 115 degrees, me, you and dad went to go eat hot ass carnasada fries. [01:26:02] Speaker D: There I was, sitting there sweating. [01:26:05] Speaker A: You had me a carnageada fries, dude. [01:26:08] Speaker B: So have you ever been to broadacre's marketplace? [01:26:11] Speaker A: Did. [01:26:12] Speaker B: No way. [01:26:12] Speaker A: Answer the question first. Yeah, I'm just making sure because you're very aggressive with Noe today. [01:26:18] Speaker B: I know. [01:26:19] Speaker C: Everybody's attacking me today. [01:26:20] Speaker B: He likes to be know. Let's ask Sean. [01:26:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:26] Speaker D: Moving on. [01:26:28] Speaker B: So, no, no. Have you been to broadaker's marketplace? [01:26:31] Speaker A: No, I don't think so. [01:26:32] Speaker B: I'm going to take you. It's a swami. It's great. [01:26:35] Speaker A: I don't think you have a choice. [01:26:36] Speaker B: Right? [01:26:36] Speaker A: You're like, I'm going to take you. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Making me seem like. No, okay, never mind. Whenever you'd like to go. Just let me know now. [01:26:44] Speaker D: We should go. It's starting to cool down a bit. [01:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [01:26:46] Speaker D: We went from a whopping 110 115 down to, like, a 99 one. [01:26:52] Speaker B: So much cooler. [01:26:53] Speaker D: I felt a lot better today. [01:26:55] Speaker B: I know. [01:26:55] Speaker A: It's bad when he's like, you know, you don't have to call me Nate. You can call me, like, I'm not that comfortable. [01:27:03] Speaker B: What's the last game you played with your kids? She doesn't have kids. I don't have kids. [01:27:07] Speaker D: My nieces. Well, the last game that I played with my niece was when we got the wi U for her. Yeah, we played Yoshi's crafted one, but on the Wi U, and I feel like that one's better than the remastered one on Switch. [01:27:20] Speaker B: The Wi U is a sleeper, man. I love that system. It has so many games that they eventually transitioned into Switch, but those games were way ahead of their time. We played Super Mario 3D world on the Wi U, and it's so good. It was so well done. [01:27:36] Speaker D: The Captain Toad game, where you actually move the panel with, like, you can choose to move the analog sticks, but you can also choose to move the controller, and it'll move with the character. [01:27:46] Speaker B: It was way ahead of its time, and it's 13 years old. [01:27:48] Speaker A: So, fun fact. Captain Toad was actually supposed to be a Zelda game, and it never got off the ground. So they used toad because they're like, what's another loved character? So it was supposed to be a Zelda game. [01:27:59] Speaker B: Reminds me of Super Mario, too, because. [01:28:01] Speaker A: If you look at, there's concept art of link doing that, and every little brick is a different version, like the different land in Hyrule. So that's originally the concept art. And then the second thing is, the Wi U was never a sleeper. Gamers knew what it was. [01:28:15] Speaker B: Right. The problem was selling system. [01:28:17] Speaker A: The problem is everybody expected a Wi. And the thing about the Wi is it sold so much because people that don't play games were now playing games. So you sold an amazing gaming platform to people that don't know how to play games, and then you go, hey, this is our next iteration of it. And they're like, but it's not like the Wi. The Wi U was amazing when you play it, but gamers knew that. We all knew the Wi U was amazing. It was never a sleeper for us. It was just like, well, you guys sold it to the wrong people, and obviously, you've learned that you learned the mistakes with the Switch. When the Switch came out, they knew how to market it better. [01:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah, they were trying to do like, I read there was a press release. Essentially what they wanted to do was market it like Sony did with the PS, right? You have the Sony PlayStation, PlayStation two, PlayStation three, PlayStation four. So they were going wi wi u, and then they wanted to do like the Wi X and the Wi. And they had like a whole set of things. They didn't realize that people thought that it was just still an updated Wi U. I mean, it sold poorly. [01:29:22] Speaker A: But if it had to fail like that, even if it had the most amazing games, if it had to fail like that for us to get the switch, it had to happen. [01:29:29] Speaker B: By the way, if any of you ever sees the Wi U nES remix game, that's the only one I'm missing from my set to complete the games that I want. [01:29:38] Speaker D: You know where you might find that? This is a perfect time for me to shout out hoopity hoopla. Because they actually gave us two free tickets to the front row card show tomorrow. [01:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going, right? [01:29:50] Speaker D: If you want to. [01:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go. [01:29:51] Speaker C: What time are you guys going? [01:29:53] Speaker B: Do you work? [01:29:53] Speaker C: I work at 04:00 p.m. You work. [01:29:55] Speaker B: At 04:00 p.m. Who cares? We don't want you to go anyway, bro. [01:29:57] Speaker D: You start at four or you work. [01:29:58] Speaker A: Until you work the weekend. [01:30:00] Speaker C: I'm working at four. [01:30:01] Speaker B: Oh, and dude, let's do this perfect amount. [01:30:04] Speaker A: You don't have to work the weekend. [01:30:05] Speaker D: Yeah, because these tickets count as. [01:30:07] Speaker B: You haven't gone to any of them with us? [01:30:08] Speaker C: No. [01:30:09] Speaker B: Dude, what's his name? Who's the minifig guy? [01:30:13] Speaker D: Pop thrash. [01:30:14] Speaker B: Pop thrash. [01:30:14] Speaker A: That's the same guy you got the Spiderman for? [01:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah, the Spider man. The Peter Parker one. That's who I got it for. So it's on Pat's desk. [01:30:25] Speaker D: So doors open at ten. We have early bird tickets and then you can buy a ticket at the door. [01:30:30] Speaker C: Oh, can you? [01:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:31] Speaker C: Okay. Can I take my kids? [01:30:32] Speaker D: You can also buy it right now. I think on the day of you can't buy it online, they'll make you buy it at the door. So if you check tonight. [01:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Of course. Yeah. Bring your children, man. [01:30:41] Speaker A: Okay. [01:30:41] Speaker B: That's the thing. And then. I love that show. I don't mind. That's one of my favorite shows ever. [01:30:48] Speaker D: Yeah. I wanted to thank hoopity hoopla for thinking about us, because we were the first people that they thought about when giving out these tickets. [01:30:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I love them. They're great. Pat, I appreciate you being here, man. You're a wealth of information and you're amazing. You still have another question? [01:31:04] Speaker A: No, I never answered the question. [01:31:06] Speaker B: Oh, what was your start talking about? [01:31:07] Speaker A: Cards. So the last game I played with my kids, it's kind of a two parter because I have two, but it's, sorry. Minecraft dungeons. And that game is way better than it deserves to be as a dungeon crawler. It doesn't deserve to be that good. And it can capture my attention and my wife's attention. We love the older game. So that game, and then my youngest, accidentally, 15 months, has now turned on the Xbox and started games. So we have now have to be careful. We actually taped the button on the Xbox. We can't turn it on and stuff like that. But he's now turning on games. So it's like only we did the fake controller for a while, but he knows the light's not on, so he gets mad. So now we're going to be playing like, Minecraft and stuff with him. So, like, when my daughter boots up any Minecraft game, he knows, okay, I'm playing. So 15 months, he was walking at eight. So he's 15 months old, turns on the Xbox, got into Minecraft. [01:32:03] Speaker B: Did you see his face? [01:32:04] Speaker A: He got into Minecraft dungeons and then used a bunch of my wife's potions. And she's like, and it's cool because we can kind of steer him because we're like, oh, a. And he goes, oh. He looks at the controller and goes, oh, a, b, y, x. [01:32:18] Speaker B: These kids are going to roll. [01:32:19] Speaker A: I mean, he walked at eight months. [01:32:21] Speaker D: So we're going to see him playing professionally at the Luxor. Don't they have like a gaming arena? [01:32:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Seeing Minecraft, like from Alpha, just being like, oh, hey, if you like Legos, you'll like this game. It's about building into what it is now. It's insane because it's. [01:32:35] Speaker B: What is it? [01:32:36] Speaker A: Like 2010? I think the game was kind of in its efficiency. Now I'm playing it with my ten year old, and it's like a game that doesn't deserve to be as good as it is. [01:32:46] Speaker C: Just real quick. [01:32:47] Speaker B: Yeah, because my computer is dying. [01:32:48] Speaker C: Oh, is it? [01:32:49] Speaker B: And we might lose the entire episode. That's why I'm trying to wrap it up real quick. [01:32:53] Speaker C: I did one of the first Mycon conventions here. We didn't even know what it was. They gave me the tickets. They're like, here you go. You're going to go do set the show. I was like, okay, fine. And it went from being this little tiny show and once we were out there, they kept adding and adding and adding more stuff to the show and I was like, wait, where did all this stuff come from? I just want to throw that out there. I didn't even know what the game was. [01:33:21] Speaker B: I appreciate you being here. You're a wealth of knowledge. You're welcome back at any time. No, really, I do. You're so brown at heart. I love it. And so my final words are keep playing games. I mean, expand your mind. It's a beautiful art form. Do you have final words? [01:33:35] Speaker D: No. Other than if you guys have any gaming or recommendations. I'm always taking them. [01:33:39] Speaker A: Pat, you don't stop playing games when you get old. You get old when you stop playing games. [01:33:43] Speaker B: That was well said. Good night, everybody. Thanks for listening. Have a good night. [01:33:46] Speaker A: Excels here.